PEER HANGOUT 3.10.24

Another useful catch up. Lots of discussion around Sues upcoming post graduate exhibition.

I shared my progress and asked how others had approached assignment 5. Matt shared that he reverse engineered his blog to link to Learning Outcomes rather than the other way around.

Peer hangout: OCA level 3 & postgraduates

27.8.24 (Sue faith Neil Rob Miriam Michelle Sarah Matt & myself)

This meeting there were 6 Students and 3 postgraduate OCA photographers.

I took the opportunity to ask my postgrad and undergrad peers to review my A4 draft submission, book dummy, press releases and publicity material. I posted these on an OCA Padlet and sent them by PDF to the post grads.

There was some feedback on the padlet prior to the meeting:

From Jonathan:

  • “think the work will look beautiful with the green cover, Niki. A few minor comments on layout, etc.:
  • The location of the title on the title page is similar but not the same as that of the cover page so jars slightly – could be either the same location or more different? I agree I asked at the meeting and will move the title page down in line with the cover title
  • Introduction. Typo: smething (should be something?). Corrected..
  • Disharmonious/harmonious(try a synonym?). I like the empahasis have left as is
  • Also repeat of societies ? Have left as is.
  • Some of the images are full single page spreads and some are just slightly smaller – again more differentiation might help. Other peers didn’t agree though one suggested increasing the white space around the smaller images, I’ll try this
  • Not sure you need the poem twice? I asked the group and consensus is to move the poem to the back of the books.
  • The small images at the back could be four on a page RHS to match the RHS images through the book. This wouldn’t then be large enough but I asked at meeting for other ideas: see below comments.
  • p.31 image twice could use a synonym. Changed one to’photograph’.

From Miriam:

  • I’m not sure about the black text on dark green on the cover – more from a readability perspective.
  • Press release – after a period of reflection, rather than ‘over’  (and don’t ask me why exactly!). Changed.
  • Drop the quote marks on locals. Done.
  • Time spent ‘there’ rather than ‘in a place’. Done.
  • The ‘this situation’ sentence really need to follow the bit about locals rather than the bit about woods. Changed.
  • you could drop ‘over two pages’ on the Suboart thing, it seems to do that thing of drawing attention in a way that makes me wonder why it’s included. Done
  • For further information and For additional info could be one? We discussed this at the meeting and I’ll change it.
  • Postcards look great! Do the lines at the bottom show?  if so, can you have one more, because it looks like an exercise book, which I like, but if it is, it feels like it needs another blank line for balance. No its okay they won’t.

Comments at the meeting:

Book dummy:

  • To put the cover text in cream to increase readability.
  • To echo this on the section (Tabacco) pages
  • Try the smaller images with just a little more white space around them
  • Move the entire poem to the end of the book
  • Asked about fonts and sizing and all thought was good
  •  Intro place the date below my name.  Done
  • Line the couplet start points up. Done
  • Footnotes:
  • Name something else, suggestions: under the microscope, inhabitants. Changed to constituents.
  • Place the 2 images on a page vertically. Done
  • Take them off of borders and place definitions in wrapped text by the side of them. This will make them more readable. Done
  • Place on white page. Done

We had a lot of discussion about the footnotes. A couple suggested I give them more dominance even equal to the main images. Most agreed with me that they are a supplement to the main images and also that it is my main images that I have been successfully “putting out there”. However I welcome the suggestions for reformatting them.

Further thoughts of my own: Try dark green section pages- have done this.

Press release:

  • Only have contact details once -done on artist talks
  • Include dates for Artist talks Change my blog. Done  and material on talks testing the water

Following on from reviewing my work we had a long discussion about the huge benefits of our peer collaborative/support group. Our thoughts are that it goes a long way to correcting the physical benefits (darkrooms, printing facilities, technical support) that a traditional rather than online university has.

Sue shared the challenges of setting up her postgraduate exhibition.

Peer hangout: OCA level 3 & postgraduates

Today four attendees were postgraduate and three of us still completing SYP.

Those who had just graduated shared their graduation stories and what they are doing now. Most are signed up for masters courses.

Neil (SYP) shared how he found his exhibition has opened up lots of opportunities for disseminating his work.

Miriam has been interviewing postgrads for her A3 (including: Sarah Jayne Field, Jack Delmonte, & David Fletcher – see his copy:, Sarah Gallear https://tracesofexistence.co.uk/, Helen Rosemier: , Anna Sellen too busy

I asked some specific questions of the group on publishing and self-publishing:

  • Has anyone used book design software adobe idesign or affinity? Sue and Lynda used affinity a USA product, but some time ago – there is a 6 month free trial (https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/trial/?utm_source=affinity_subscribers&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign ) so it is tempting. I need to investigate whether adobe idesign has a free trial.
  • Has anyone used Mixam, youlove print.co.uk, exwhyzed, Blurb, Lulu books, self publish be happy to publish photo books? Some have used exwhyzed, Jack used Blurb for OCA work but not SYP, but used says their top-quality lustre paper and hardbacks are good. The advantage of Blurb is that the design software is built in. I am unsure whether it is acceptable quality for SYP – but I don’t see why I can’t explore that and exwhyzed and mixam and then maybe make a case for it on a cost basis.
  • Moo was suggested as a good place to get post cards publicised: https://www.moo.com/uk/
  • Has anyone used Artrabbit to publicise their work? They think was Matt who wasn’t here tonight who did- I’ll follow up with him
  • How have people used Issuu? No one had.
  • Has anyone any experience of obtaining funding from Arts councils? Sue tried but found it too challenging.

Once again a useful meeting for bouncing ideas around, support and provking some excitement about life after the degree!

Next meeting 22nd August

PEER HANGOUT: OCA level 3 and postgraduates

Peer hangout 20.6.23

A good mix of OCA post grads and undergrads.

I shared my success with the Glasgow Gallery of Photography and August Suboart magazine. I learnt that Suboart will tag me in their Instagram posts and then I can follow others who have been published – and they will publish me.

Join shutter hub and they share your good news and include your work in their yearbook

Miriam shared that here A3 assignment was role related to the photographic industry

During our discussions I thought for Assignment 3 using the question, why are you doing a photography degree? What were your intentions? Or did you intend to take your work beyond graduation? Or how are you taking your work forwards?

Lynda suggested as contacts Rob Townsend, Sarah Jane field?

We discussed assignment 2 for which its just theoretical how I’m going to publicise

For Assignment 3 Michelle suggested a zine would be cheaper maybe combined with a virtual exhibition -Kunstmatrix

Matt suggested use Art rabbit to publicise

Leaflets: Mixam printing use for quotes, or local printers?

Shutter hub book fair – use for contacts

Sarah Gallear suggested a handmade book: https://makingaphotobook.co.uk/

Susan used: https://exwhyzed.com book publisher

We discussed how on or own we feel during SYP, in terms of little OCA support; we wondered if this is intentional as we should be almost independent now and how valuable our peer support is now.

18th July next meeting

PEER HANGOUT: Level 3 and OCA photography post graduates

This group formed and ran over the past few years and has continued as some have graduated for the others at the final stages of their careers. It is both highly critical and supportive, and has been invaluable to all involved. We also support each other by email outside of the monthly hangouts

Student led hangout 18.5.24

  • Michelle (postgrad) is enrolled for MA at Falmouth
  • Neil about to exhibit
  • Miriam is preparing her exhibition
  • Sue is preparing for her post grad exhibition

We had a long discussion about assignments 2 and 3.

Assignment 2: I asked how when for various reasons I had little desire to engage with an audience, and therefore how I could meet that criteria.

Suggestion that it just needs to be seen that I have been through the thought process for organising and costing my end product, and explored how I could maximise my photography if I want to. Ultimately I can explain why I feel my work is sensitive and I don’t want to put it out there.

I had these thoughts during the meeting:

  • I could explore crowd funding and then discount the idea. See shared files for Helen’s stuff on crowd funding and interview Helen- she found it more difficult than she thought she would.
  • Explore various book publishing companies to get comparison qualities and prices (dummy quotes). Book companies: ExWhyZed suggested as helpful in answering questions and giving advice. For costings try Mixam, Blurb, Lulu books, Mpix.

Ultimately I could explain why a scenario is too costly and rule it out. Apparently it is about showing the problems I encounter and how I overcome them or change the plan.

Michelle suggested if cost is an issue is to look at getting a zine published instead (A4/A5 booklet).

Assignment 3: Miriam and myself asked for advice on Assignment 3.

Recommendations given:

Very difficult to get industry professionals to answer surveys, Sue had 3 responses from 60 and Lynda 11 responses from 180. Sue researched curating and Lynda book publishing. Lynda has one F:F by zoom.

Lynda did a domestika photo book course and formed her 18 survey questions from there.

My thoughts:

  • I could look back for exhibitors at the Bristol photo book fair I visited last year – find list of contributors.
  • Shutterhub may consent to sending a survey out and ?….Harvey might take part. See Dec?23 open exhibition at Cambridge for list of contributors.

Again a useful meeting which propels me on

PEER HANGOUT: Level 3 and OCA photography post graduates

This group formed and ran over the past few years and has continued as some have graduated for the others at the final stages of their careers. It is both highly critical and supportive, and has been invaluable to all involved. We also support each other by email outside of the monthly hangouts

4.4.24

I shared my pdf publicity draft for A1 with the group.

All were happy with the format/layout. Jack commented that my intro didn’t explain the work as well as I did to him verbally. He suggested a simple, What, why and why now. I have taken this on board and rewritten the intro, artist statement and bio, being more explicit about the work.

I expressed again my reluctance to put my work out there, especially due to the sensitive nature of the concept and my accompanying poetry. Jack was strong in his opinion that it is an important story to tell, and common to many places. Michelle based in New Zealand and Lynda based in Canada shared that this is a global issue. Others concurred that it is sadly not unusual in communities. The suggestion is that I should share honestly the back story, ‘lift the covers’ – possibly I can do this outside of my locality! It left me feeling more confident about the work I am doing.

I had some suggestions where I could send it to – Anna Sellen , a successful Post graduate OCA photographer . Some shared that they’d not had any responses to theirs, and if so it was okay to say that this was the case.

We discussed reviews again and advice was to be clear what we want from reviewers. Probably not their thoughts about the work, but how to get the work out there.

Competitions: I asked opinion on the worth of lens culture competition and reviews. The group said both were worthwhile and gained exposure from them.

Other suggestions were:

  • Exposure – but this is in February so was too early for me.
  • Shutter hub which I have on my list to do – you get a free review if you join (£87).
  • Suboart magazine which is online and free – I need to wait for another call.
  • Source magazine- watch out for calls for work, the May 12th deadline is one image only and I’ve already identified that that doesn’t work for my work. We have discussed as a group  entering the Source Graduate group entry (12th May deadline).
  • Impressions Gallery – subscribe to get open calls.
  • Pictor website – I need to check it out.
  • PH museum – list of paid reviews/reviewers?
  • Photo Gallery
  • London Independent Photography
  • LensScratch photo magazine – Sue and Lynda follow and look at resources

I asked how others use Instagram. It was suggested that I post at one item a week, and like and follow others and others will do the same for me.

I should look at the OCASA enterprise hub for a small grant £100 towards expenses.

PEER HANGOUT: Level 3 and OCA photography post graduates

This group formed and ran over the past few years and has continued as some have graduated for the others at the final stages of their careers. It is both highly critical and supportive, and has been invaluable to all involved. We also support each other by email outside of the monthly hangouts.

29th February 2024

Several who have now graduated were in the session: Lynda, Sue & Michelle, this is really useful to those of us still working on SYP.

Matt shared his experience at the Format portfolio review: He suggested have back up material ready as well to show if needed. He felt it was useful even if not all reviews were useful. Discussed reviewers to avoid (Micheal Weir). Suggested to get the reviewers email addresses.

Miriam and Neil shared experience of exposure reviews, found them challenging.

We discussed SYP assignment 3 and other shared that they had presented theirs as bullet points.

We talked about life after OCA, and short courses at institutes such as Domestika and West Dean College.

It was suggested that Linkedin is a good way to network – I should update mine.

PEER CRITIQUE SESSION

These have been set up and run by another Photography level 3 student

Peer critque session 24.2.24

Shared Peer Padlet: https://oca.padlet.org/robert513937/photography-level-3-critique-sessions-feb-24th-2024-1eiusxdj97joi0hf

This was the first time I have engaged in this group. The timing was good for me as I am currently working on SYP assignment 1, and refining my BOW images so that I can share in open calls and portfolio reviews.

As always it was useful to engage with peers, reflecting on others work and sharing ideas. It gives me some perspective to see and understand what others are working on and being close to open calls and portfolio reviews now being in the seat of a critiquer was useful.

We discussed Jonathan, Kevin and Hilary’s work first. Jonathan’s work is in a naure reserve and is along Land Art lines. Kevin is working with family portraits and identity.

Regarding my work, I prepared a padlet for the process where I set out what I was looking for in the critique of my work:   https://oca.padlet.org/nicola514516/syp-image-edits-of-bow-for-final-output-what-lies-beneath-e4h3uylersvjzysh

Summary of my expectations for the peer critique session: I am finalising my images from my BOW assessment for my final SYP output which will be a book. I would welcome any thoughts on my editing process so far, as set out in the ‘editing board’ post on this padlet.

I gave context for my work by sharing the power point I submitted for BOW. Then shared my editing board for SYP: https://oca.padlet.org/nicola514516/niki-south-syp-editing-board-of-bow-final-portfolio-images-34wrm0q8udo7plnr

We looked first at my main BOW images: 1.3302, 2. 3283, 3. 3305, 4. 3273, 5. 5279, 6. 5607, 7.3259,

After some discussion there was a consensus that if I was looking for images to drop, it should be images 5 (as the lighting is different) and possibly 6, as I thought. It was mentioned there could be some benefit in adding an image or two that offers different aspects of the woodland as image 3 does currently.

The group found it hard to decide on which to swap in but eventually agreed that images that showed extra aspects to the woodland other than predominantly trees would be good. So, I have decided for now to add in possibility images 2 and 3. These were the images that the group consensus felt added some extra woodland context to the other tree images.

SYP images: 1. 3302, 2.3283, 3. 5900, 4. 3273, 5. 3305, 6. 5640, 7, 3259.

Then I shared and we discussed my BOW footnote woodland images and my suggested reworded and edited SYP footnote images. The group were complimentary about my SYP images and couldn’t suggest any changes.

I asked if they though they signposted my work too overtly; the response was that they thought they were necessary and add to the story that I am telling.

All in all a useful sessio which focused and then refined my editing process for my SYP images

PEER HANGOUT: Level 3 and OCA photography post graduates

This group formed and ran over the past few years and has continued as some have graduated for the others at the final stages of their careers. It is both highly critical and supportive, and has been invaluable to all involved. We also support each other by email outside of the monthly hangouts.

25.1.24

This was my first student led peer hangout since starting SYP this month.

  • We shared our updates.
  • Some have had images accepted for a competition. Neil has had agreement to sea walls as a venue for his BOW as well as the OCA diversity calendar.
  • Miriam Jonathan and myself discussed applying for group funding for a group source  exhibition (AOP Graduate show). Miriam has offered to coordinate.

Those of us that have just received our assessment feedback shared.

  • Lynda and Sue were pleased with their results though I was interested to hear Lynda say she was told her work/blog is too detailed- it gave me heart!
  • Gerald gave detailed feedback about his SYP submission. I noted that he did well tough his work was not finished; he suggested that was as it showed good progression and was work that creates discourse.
  • I noted that Sue devised a questionnaire to send out for assignment 3 for secondary research, using bullet points for ease.
  •  Sue reminded us that we must speak to an audience that doesn’t know anything about the work.

Sue & Lynda suggested:

  • when pitching get your points across briefly – think in bullet points- you need to grab their attention in 3 minutes.
  • Use padlet’s to show progression
  • They did their evaluation as books? For assignment 5
  • For LOs document actual problems.

We discussed useful publications and organisations to apply to for open calls and portfolio reviews:

  • Subart magazine
  • Shutterhub- Karen Harvey recommended as a reviewer. If you join you get 1 free portfolio review a year.
  • Picter.com – join http://submit.picter.com . Set up an account to give details of calls, and after entering a competition it holds your details including images, making it easier to submit to multiple competions.
  • Lens scratch: open calls are free with a donation. They have a section of resources on open calls.
  • I clarified that dpi which is asked for is the dsame as pixels per inches. This I can set as a perameter in photoshop.

I asked for advice on building a website for my work, platforms suggested were:

  • Portfolio.box.net as inexpensive
  • Adobe portfolio is free if you have an adobe subscription with the creative cloud

General advice:

  • Advertise your good news via Instagram
  • Images at galleries are referenced with, medium, paper, size of object plus title date artsi name.

Actions:

  • Join picter.com
  • Checkout Glasgow Gallery photography
  • Checkout David Wyatt and Ariadne Tutor sessions online þ
  • Checkout ‘Free range’ graduate shows
  • Checkout the NEW York portfolio review (14th April -remote). þ Deadline was 31st Jan which was too tight for me.
  • Athens open call deadline 5th Feb too tight.

I need to get myself quickly into position where I can apply for open calls and portfolio reviews.